Internet Talk on Reconciliation between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton
Internet Talk on Reconciliation between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton
Democratic insiders say Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama once held warm feelings for each other, but their fierce White House fight is pushing their relationship to the point of no return.
Many say it’s already gone so far that any sort of union would come only if they thought the good of the party absolutely depended on it. Clinton has floated the idea of a dream ticket. But if Obama wins, the chances of it happening are nearly zero, strategists say.
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A. I am not an Obamabot. I am Indepedent who supports him since 2004 since I am tired of this country being torn into 2. It needs to come back together and Clinton trolls try to tear Obama down at every turn.
B. You are the name caller, I see if in your past posts, I am only defending myself.
C. You did not listen to what I posted earlier and just decided to reply whatever you wanted to.
D. It is terrible that we have not had an election without a Bush or Clinton since 1976. I don’t live in a duel monarchy.
E. I am not a sexist, I supported Elizabeth Dole in 2000 because she was qualified and any well qualified woman candidate if they ran, but Hillary is not qualified. She lies to the people and tears this country into 2. We are all Americans, whether Republican, Democrat or independent. She does not understand that, she demonizes others if they don’t agree with her
Your article makes it look like Hillary is not as “big a person” (honorable) as Obama. You add to any rift that might be there with your obvious male bias.. I think that article is irresponsible and you have very little facts to back up what points you do make.This is the sort of something from nothing that reporters are doing to hurt Hillary’s chances—what you really are doing is showing voters who might vote Democratic, just how biased and stuck in the stone age you are. Your male insecurities are plastered all over this article.
I for one am a Republican. I know of at least 100 of my friends who are Republican women (and quite a few fair-minded and balanced men I might add) who will be voting for Hillary. If Hillary does not get the nomination, these votes will go back to McCain.
So, this sort of story—these reading into the minds of folks by Michael Mcauliff– only hurt the entire Democratic party. It is you reporters that create the rift– you stoke it, create it, invent it, and surmise it. What is going on now is a contest –that is what it is supposed to be. You are trying to paint Hillary as a “controlling and super-aggressive” female (and we all know that is an unacceptable quality for a women–right). Subtle sexism is alive and well. It has been fanned for thousands of years and you fan, fan away some more.
The public, especially educated women and fair-minded men see all of this and it is outright painful to watch. I feel sorry for you. Can’t you write a story with more substance than this one? What a desperate writer you are. Pathetic!
My favorite Shrillary quotes:
“I think I’m probably the most transparent person in public life”
Um, yeah . . . probably not.
“The books and writing and words about me will continue to fill many archives and warehouses across the world”
I just thought this sentence was priceless . . . what else is there to say? 
Obama has not paid his dues. Hillary is obviously the more capable choice for POTUS. You Obama-worshipping , koolade-guzzling fools will be more than sorry when McInsane ends up as POTUS. Then, we can listen to four more years of your crying, bitching, and moaning. No thanks. If Obambast ends up as the nominee….well, to quote an old line from Jethro Tull, as far as this election goes…”really don’t mind if I sit this one out.”
Are you a DLC like Hillary? So, you will just “sit this one out” and won’t go back to your parent party and vote for McCain. That helps enough. We will win without Limbaugh-Hannity Fu Fox Clan people.
It is the Republicans that nominate the one whose turn it is.
Me, I want my party to nominate a Democrat. There is only one left, and it ain’t Hillary.
when did POTUS become an acceptable abbreviation for the President of the United States? If you’re going to use that, then I can say IHUSHYSMF. Bonus point to anyone who can decode that!
Go ahead and sit it out. That’s what 20% or more of Obama supporters will do if Hillary is the nominee. She has fractured the Democratic party with her selfishness, and probably insured Karl Rove’s dream of a permanent Republican Majority for at least the next 20 years … assuming the country can survive 20 more years of neo-conism
see thats the problem we are all DEMOCRATS ( or have recently switched to become democrats so you can vote in this primary) Democratdoc - was just stating what he plans to do and it is his right as an American and sit it out. What is not very AMERICAN is too silence ones voice like in MI and FL. starboymikey is allowing POLLS and Threats to try to influence others. ( hey that sounds like the current administration) Look how far you have come, We need to stop this and talk facts and opinions and stop insulting each other. If you are willing to throw the Democratic Party under a bus then you Should not be in this PARTY.
I think Hillary lies a bit too much. Jeeeez.
She made all that shit up about Bosnia and Africa trip with Wilson. Man, those were whoppers. And, on top of that, she is consistently siding with the NeoCons.
I think I’ll go with Obama.
No way should Obama consider Clinton as his running mate! He should pick someone with solid foreign policy and defense credentials such as Jim Webb or Anthony Zinni. Bill Richardson wouldn’t be a bad choice either.
As for Hillary offering Obama the VP spot? Sorry Hillary, those who finish second get some nice parting gifts but not the nomination.
It really boils down to this…
Supporting Clinton nowadays is basically saying you have no faith in the future of your country, it’s people, or even in the ideas that this country was founded on. You are a cynic, and probably have a massive amount of personal baggage (latent racism, fear of change, separation anxiety) going into your decision.
Supporting Obama says you still believe in your country and all the positive ideals it stands for. You are an optimist, and it is that same mindset that got us through trials such as the Revolution, The Civil War, the Depression, and WWII. You believe that while our country is not perfect, you are willing to admit that and try to make it a better place, instead of living in the past, and therefore, living in fear.
Real patriots support Obama.
see yet another Obama supporter trying to fit people into little boxes.Stop putting labels on people, you are as bad as all those stupid polls out there.
Hillary is my inspiration
She is willing to fight for Americans
Hillary is fighting for Universal Health care
(Her plan allows Americans to get the SAME healthcare that is offered to the congress, we can keep our coverage if we are unemployed or switch jobs)
Hillary will not allow Health Insurance Companies to DROP people because they become sick or because they had health problems going in to the health care plan
Lets stop this RACE nonsense and put our EGO away and start think about what is BEST for this country and get back to REAL issues LIKE our Dying solders, Healthcare, death of our middle class, our economy, our education system,
Hillary is an Inspiration to us all !!!
Real patriots do not wear american FLAG PINS and they STAND in front of EIGHT flags not TWO and Real Patriots Deflect from real issues in the country that we can fix in out lifetime like the healthcare system, economic systems , educational systems. Real Patriots focus on Issues like skin color you know the thing you can not change. Real Patriots sit and listen to true criticism of this country on a weekly basis , like in a pew of a church for instance. Real Patriots can only look forward to that day where they can say “For the First Time in My Adult Lifetime, I Am Really Proud of My Country” while we are in an unjust war. So If you are looking for a REAL Patriot you know who to vote for:
Real patriots support Obama.
By “patriots” you don’t men war mongers? (1) The greatest patriot of all time was Hitler who loved his country so much that he attempted to take over the whole world. (2) George Bush is the next patriot whose extreme love for the country led us to the invasion and occupation of Iraq. (3) According to Bill Clinton, Hillary and McCain are the only two other patriots in this country who, with their lapel pins and hand on heart, will successfully attack Iran as Iran produces Al Queda ( because Shia produces Sunni terrorists) . This is television & radio Limbaugh-Hannity Fu Fox Clan.
Insider’s concerned? Would that be concern on the super delegates part? I’m not buying it because if they were they would doing something right now to stop this drama. Seems to me their only concern is about their political career’s. Bill Richardson had the gutts to make a stand I suggest the rest of you do the same. Time to chose a side.
Seems they are giving McCain support and it seems pretty strange. Why do you think they are doing this? Do they really support the policies of “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” McCain.It they do, then why don’t they say so. Then we would know where they stand.
Really too bad for this country! We need both of these wonderful people opposing John McBush in some capacity. Kennedy and Johnson were not fond of each other. Nor were Ike and Nixon. One can always hope that the supporter for each of these candidates will be smarter than certain advisors and the media will stop deliberately spoiling for a fight. The media loves the noise and attention. The advisors just love the money. How about a little love for the country?!
Forget about reconciliation, any attempt at that would be a divisive sham. A wedge has been driven between both candidates, any shotgun marriage between the two will cause supporters on both sides to walk away and not vote.The nominee chooses the veep or civil war will win the day and lose the election.
The fix is in! The call won’t come from Dean, Gore, Edwards or Pelosi. Kennedy and Kerry will meet with Barry. Kerry will put his arm around Barry and say, “Barack, you’ve done better than anyone ever could have expected. You know … in 2004, when I was …” Kennedy will interrupt and say, “It’s over Barack. You’re the VP and you’ll be the nominee in 2016.” Obama will say, “Wait a minute! I’ve got the numbers.” Kennedy will respond, “Barack, there’s going to be a DOJ investigation. Now it can go away or you can push your candidacy into a blake hole.” Kerry will nervously laugh and say,” A black hole …. ha ha ha … good one, Ted.” Kennedy will say, “Shut up, John.”
hey you forgot to say Pelosi made it REAL CLEAR that there will be NO DREAM TICKET. So Obama just went back to his pew in Chicago and sat there remembering all those wonderful things Wright had said. (overnment tried to kill blacks with AIDS , churp churp chickens, God Ham America, Hillary aint no watermelon) haha
OBAMA 08!
I’ve got a surprise for Howard Dean if he tries to sell us Hillary as “THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE PARTY UNITY.”
I won’t vote for either of ‘em. If Obama somehow picks Hillary as the nominee, it’s game over. It means the whole thing was a set up, the Democrats have been taken over by the DLC (the Republican Wing of the party) and that John McCain and Joe Lieberman are going to be the next puppet-PRESIDENTS of the CORPORATE STATES OF AMERICA.
Have you noticed how these little “dream ticket” memes get injected into the blogosphere from different parts of the media? Some main stream, some internet…
THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DREAM ABOUT AN OBAMA-CLINTON TICKET (in any order) ARE KARL ROVE’S KIN. I’m having none of it. If they try it, it’s FINLAND, or CANADA for me.
Obama-Webb (Gore, McKaskill, Richardson, Nepolitano) ‘08
Hillary is the better Candidate. She has plans on UNIVERSAL healthcare (Her plan allows Americans to get the SAME healthcare that is offered to the congress, we can keep our coverage if we are unemployed or switch jobs) that is huge for me. She has plans on Economic growth she IS the stronger Candidate. Obama is DRAGGING America to a Racial divide that barley exist and he did that to justify his 20 years of listening to a CRAZY black pastor. He is not electable!! America will not vote for someone who stands behind a person who preaches that we created AIDS to kill off Black People.!!! IT Will never Happen.
The pastor may not be as crazy as Hillary when she was in the same building/ room (see her newly released White House documents) at the time Bill and Monica were moaning in the the same bed, meaning virtuous act of menage a trois. Or, was she dodging sniper fire in Bosnia like the video shows? And Bill Clinton’s greatest patriot McCain’s spiritual adviser from Ohio also said the same thing that govt. is involved in Black genocide. By the way did you forget Hillary used to campaign for Republican party? She has in her blood: she is campaigning for McCain now (Limbaugh asked her to “muddy Obama”).
So what !!!!!!!!!!!!! they are really making ALOT of money off us now.
Hillary will not allow Health Insurance Companies to DROP people because they become sick or because they had health problems going in to the health care plan
If she is able to do that The Healthcare companies can become as rich as they like !!!!!
Lets stop this RACE nonsense and get back to REAL issues LIKE our Dying solders, Healthcare, death of our middle class, our economy, our education system,
America is the last industrialized nation to have universal health care.
If you want to preserve the role of for profit companies in providing insurance, then consider the the German model, where health care insurance is treated as a utility, and the companies are regulated as to the level of profit they can take.
Seeing how Hillary botched the health care initiative in ‘93, I think I’ll let Obama handle it this time.
PLease note that she tried to do this (clear throat) AS FIRST LADY!!!! and not as an elected official.. Second she wanted the government to pay for the health care services . The US was not then nor is now going to allow that to happen. THAT being said Hillary’s plan is the closesy thing we will get to UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE in this country at the present time.
Who on earth would ever want to work with her? Bad judgment, dishonest, mediocre. The superdelegates should put her out of her misery pronto. She and her husband are too classless to end her campaign, so the superdelegates should do it for her. The sooner, the better for the party and the counry.
Email the superdelegates who represent your state. I have emailed mine, encouraging them to speak out to other delegates even though my superdelegate, Ted Kennedy has already endorsed Obama. Write to any and all superdelegates with whom you might have some sway. Remember–the assumption is that statistically everyone who writes represents many people.
look i am going to pull an OBAMA
Who on earth would ever want to work with him? Bad judgment, dishonest, mediocre. The superdelegates should put him out of his misery pronto. He and his wife are too classless to end his campaign, so the superdelegates should do it for him. The sooner, the better for the party and the counry.
OBAMA 08!!
A. I am not an Obamabot. I am Indepedent who supports him since 2004 since I am tired of this country being torn into 2. It needs to come back together and Clinton trolls try to tear Obama down at every turn.
B. You are the name caller, I see if in your past posts, I am only defending myself.
C. You did not listen to what I posted earlier and just decided to reply whatever you wanted to.
D. It is terrible that we have not had an election without a Bush or Clinton since 1976. I don’t live in a duel monarchy.
E. I am not a sexist, I supported Elizabeth Dole in 2000 because she was qualified and any well qualified woman candidate if they ran, but Hillary is not qualified. She lies to the people and tears this country into 2. We are all Americans, whether Republican, Democrat or independent. She does not understand that, she demonizes others if they don’t agree with her
It’s so nice to see Clinton supporters wish death on their fellow Democrat Obama. Wait until the Republicans get a hold of him? Sorry but Hillary will have used up all the dirty attacks from the slime politics playbook by June. And so far none have worked, she’s still losing! This time the crap that the Republicans are gonna pull won’t win over anyone who isn’t already on the far-right. It’s time for Hillary supporters to make up their minds to accept Obama if he shall win the Democratic nomination. Yes, that’s right. This will require you to swallow your pride and act like an adult. Or maybe just ask yourself this: do you really want to see Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hanity, or Bill O’Reilly have their day? Do they deserve to have larger say in American policy than you? A vote for John McLame says: Yes I do!
billary is the polar opposite of romney who could have torn apart the repub party but saw the handwriting on the wall and for the greater good bowed out. if billary gets the nom the general election will make the goldwater & mcgovern debacles look like squeakers. she will have incinerated the party, and set back her sisterhood a generation. she goes on her merry way for the same reason a dog licks his balls. because she can.
The Democrats don’t NEED this to happen. And more importantly, America does NOT NEED this to happen. We NEED a DEMOCRAT in the White House. Any DEMOCRAT would be better than ANY Republican.
And DEMOCRATS - Please know that we are not the only ones on these sites. There are lots of no integrity Republicans on here pretending to be Democrats, saying nasty things in the name of Sen. Clinton’s supporters and Sen. Obama’s supporters. We more than likely are not fighting with fellow Dems, but trouble making Repubs who know that they don’t stand a chance as long as we are united and strong. So please know that Clinton supporters may not be calling Obama supporters names and Obama supporters may not be calling Clinton supporters names…it is more than likely the EVIL ones Republicans! United we win in November divided we fall and they know this.
your maybe right about the republican’s coming on here to encourage “the fight” on HUFF post and other blogs, but I am not one of them.
I am just extremely pissed that Obama and the Media have gotten away with their hatred towards Hillary by pointing to anything and everything they have done wrong, like her responsibility in Bill’s cheating, etc, etc.
If Obama changes his tune tomorrow and becomes inclusive by saying we need Hillary in this fight then I might respect him more and will try to get over my anger towards him to support the demo party. It’s that simple…
So…It’s the holy Barack who can’t forgive Hillary for doing what politicians do? Now THAT REALLY makes me wonder about his experience. Wait ’til the republicans get their teeth into him, he may wish he had a pit bull in his tender corner.
No, this guy is going to be like John Kerry…take the high road and let Grandpa McCain win another 4 years. The only good I can see coming from that is that at least this time when the economy falls apart the gnat-like attention span of the American people won’t be able to blame it on the Democrats…”course we’ll be in WWIII by then, so, who cares?
Ironic. Candidate Obama, the “uniting” candidate, won’t let up despite being neck and neck with Candidate Clinton. This plus any number of recent events coming to surface (those who sponsor or speak up for him, many of which seem to be involved in pretty nasty causes); if it’s Obama vs McCain, Obama is going to have an insurmountable uphill battle.
Maybe it’s for the best Candidate Obama played arrogant when turning down Candidate Clinton’s request. More true colors are revealed. A shame; I really liked the guy… but now, his actions and supporters are the ones unwittingly betraying him. I wonder why he’d let Farrakhan, the Black Panthers, this twerp of a pastor, and I hope there aren’t any other violence-loving rabble associations speaking up for him…
(google Black Panthers Obama, and you’ll find out — they donated money, got their name on his web site, and later their advertisement was removed. I wonder if they kept the money…)
Oh come off it for a second.
Clinton’s the one who is cynically offering Obama the VP spot when she knows perfectly well that it is almost mathematically impossible for her to win this nomination, and it is clearly impossible for her to win it without doing serious damage to the party and to our chances in November.
Stop pretending you once ‘liked’ the guy but he has since fallen out of your good graces. I don’t know for sure, but if you don’t like him now, I seriously doubt you ever liked him. HIs behavior throughout this campaign has been nothing but honorable - it’s Hillary who has been throwing desparate attack after desparate at him, hoping something will stick, trying to corral him into the ‘black candidate’ pigeonhole and having her surrogates play on people’s racial resentment. Nothing has worked. Gallup shows he has already rebounded from the Wright non-issue, and those who aren’t satisfied by Obama’s wonderful speech on that subject were never going to be satisfied to begin with.
And by the way, I see you bought into the Fox News propaganda hook, line, and sinker - that Black Panther page was put up by one mischief-maker of the millions of anonymous users who use my.barackobama.com. You could go on Barack’s site right now and put up a page like that, if you wanted to. That’s a community outreach site, and anyone can register there and put up a profile.
I have heard NOBODY mention a “reconciliation” scenario in which Obama is the presidential candidate and Hillary settles for veep. NOBODY! The Clintons’ idea of a compromise is that the guy in the lead turns over first place to THEM. If Obama thinks it isn’t such a hot idea, they have a hissy fit and send send their stooges all over the internet to talk about how blacks lack gratitude. (This is already happening). I guess they and their supporters actually believe that this would be a good deal for Obama and that for him to take it is just plain *rude. . Gotta wonder what planet they live on. where the creatures have brass balls this big.
It will be up to Hillary to lead some kind of visible reconciliation process and to campaign vigorously for Obama if he gets the nomination, but I don’t think either Clinton is capable of doing it., at least not convincingly. There was the slime of their campaign against Obama, plus both Clintons sat out the Gore and Kerry campaigns, probably the better to keep the seat warm for her. They will SAY that Gore didn’t want their services, and that is probably true, considering how badly they behaved with his philandering and her lying about it. But Democrats really ought to consider and ponder what it means to the Party’s chances when we have an ex-president and his wife who can’t or won’t campaign for other Democratic presidential contenders.
There is always 2012 to consider, and from the way the Clintons are running their campaign, I think that they want to destroy Obama’s chances not just for now, but for the foreseeable future. If he gets the nomination and wins, there go her chances for 2012, and by 2016 she will be almost as old as McCain is now. If McCain wins, there is a strong liklihood that he will be a one-term president. So, for purely selfish reasons, McCain is a better presidential choice than Obama for the Clintons to work to elect (if she isn’t the nominee) in order to hedge their bets. And that is EXACTLY what they are doing! It is another Lieberman deal in which a candidate is willing to use the Democratic party, then spit on it in order to get elected and afterwards.
When it comes to party loyalty, ithe Clintons’ is little to non-existant.. They have been pretty much creating their own third party anyhow, their corporate-based DLC. They even tried to get rid of Howard Dean and to marginalize the DNC, because the war opposition is centralized there and to get rid of it will make her war vote and support for Bush seem less egregious than it will in the war-profiteering-corporation-ridden DLC..
It is really sad that her supporters refuse to take stuff like party loyalty seriously just because the Clintons claim to be for the little guy and because they behave like the characters in a country-western song….it is all a charade, maybe even Bill’s philandering and her lying about it. Their loyalty is, as it always has been, to their corporate pals. Does anybody even bother to wonder anymore who pressured Bill into betraying his promise to not support NAFTA?
I don’t think having Hillary out there campaigning for Obama really helps. She is so polarizing within our party we are scard she may destroy our candidate as it is. Wait until she and Bill are out there in the general. I wouldn’t put it past her to secretly hope she can undermine Obama so she can run again in 2012. To be honest, I’m not sure she’s even a Democrat. The DLC is, to use both Paul Wellstone’s and Howard Dean’s phrase, “the Republican Wing of the Democratic party. Hillary and Bill are done for Democrats. There’s a reason they are called “ex-Presidents”.
People keep saying how Hillary has such a huge unfavorability rating and Obama doesn’t. I’d like to point out that as of today, March 23, according to Rasmussen, Hillary’s unfavorability rating is 55%, but Obama is very close at 51%. Guess what, McCain’s is only 42%. For favorability again McCain outperforms both democrats with 54% to Clinton at 42% and Obama at 47%.
The democrats need to understand the situation. Half of the party strongly endorses Obama while the other half strongly endorse Hillary. This isn’t about delegates, this is about how individuals will actually vote in November. There are many who say that they would not vote for the democratic ticket if their nominee wasn’t on the ballot. I’ve been told by some that they’d never vote for the ticket of their own candidate if the other one was the VP. We have to think about unity, and we have to think about bringing both halves together. The only way to do it is with both on the ballot. Neither Obama or Clinton can claim that they are unifiers at this point, if they were, then this wouldn’t be an issue. They both need to prove that they have it in them to put themselves above their egos and pick their challenger as the VP. Then all of us need to realize that a nominee can’t be a unifier unless we’re willing to be unified. We need to put all our anger and dissatisfaction with the other nominee away, and do what is best for the party and vote democratic.
So, Obama’s team hasn’t indulged in retaliation?
Ted Kennedy, Richardson and the entire Clinton Presidentiall team most all aligning with Obama and you don’t find any sour grapes in Obama’s message?
Richardson’s message over the weekend speaks volumes of the anger towards Hillary’s compaign. Richardson brought up the phone call to Hillary when he decided to go with Obama. Why did he hope to gain by going public with the so called “tone” of the conversation… See, for me that is the type of stuff that makes me dislike Obama. If you think he is fighting fire with fire then you fail to realize that Obama is no better then Clinton and yet you see a difference? I see a bully tactics (Obama) and a well known femal candidate. The media, the democrat elites and the so called educated prefer Obama. The rest that ae left over, support Hillary. This is why it is so emotional for the Hillary supporters, fellow democrats, that dislike Obama for his tactics. Obama is not going to get us when he most needs us in the fall.
How ridiculous. Ted Kennedy is cruel because he calls Bill Clinton on his “divisive” tactics? Bill Richardson is cruel because he honestly describes what the effects of Hillary’s “kitchen sink” strategy is doing to our chances in November? Obama is WAY better than the Clintons. He’s never attacked them, only defended his own position. In fact, he’s never done anything except set the record straight.
You are playing the victim because your candidate is the bully. No amount of spin is going to change the fact that the Clintons have set a new low for intra-party contests.
They have defined themselves by fear and smear. They are sleeping in the bed they made for themselves. May they enjoy a long vaction starting in late May.
That’s my point. The democrats have the opportunity to define this race and bring the whole country behind them. Let’s not blow it. With Obama, we’ll have the African American, the youth, and half of the upper middle class white male vote, and with Hillary we’ll have everyone else, plus the ticket would attract independents and republicans. The only ones we’ll lose are the far right, the Nader followers, the pro-war crowd, and the democrats that care more about being angry than about winning in November. Easy win.
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